wow, what an experience that was, you know, being on a podcast with kelly is like no other podcast I've ever been on, because, you know, it's got, usually I'm on a lot of podcasts and this usual format of, you know, tell us what you do, why it's so great and what's your background and what are some of these heavy challenges you've had that ever come?

wow, what an experience that was, you know, being on a podcast with kelly is like no other podcast I've ever been on, because, you know, it's got, usually I'm on a lot of podcasts and this usual format of, you know, tell us what you do, why it's so great and what's your background and what are some of these heavy challenges you've had that ever come? What has been a humbling experience in your life? You know, it's a, it's a, it's a format, it's a very good format and it's fascinating, but kelly takes it to a whole other level and you feel like one of those deep dive hold your breath divers, you know, that just, and you just get very, very personal. It's an experience for me, it was almost not a body experience. So I have to thank kelly for amazing time and I hope to do it again soon and I hope that you will follow kelly and do exactly what he says, because he's one smart dude, thank you.